Category Archives: Dating and Courtship

If you’re asking where’s the limit, you’re over it

Is oral sex still considered sex as far as losing your virginity? My girlfriend keeps pressuring me to let her…

–Anon

I believe the optimal word in “oral sex” would be “sex.”  It would at the very least destroy your purity. Such an intimate act belongs on the marriage bed and is sin outside it.

Look at it this way. Biblically, in this context, your body does not belong to you. It belongs to the woman you will marry someday.  The best gift you can give your future wife on your wedding day is a husband who hasn’t already shared any more of her “property” than you’ve already given away.

By the way, I would dump the current girlfriend. Anyone who pressures you and shows you such disrespect isn’t worth your time, and certainly not what I’d call a healthy relationship. Don’t ever let anyone pressure you into doing something you know is wrong, or aren’t comfortable with.

In Christ’s Purity,

Andrea

Wrong Reason, Right Reason

Why would a man tell you another woman tried to hit on him?–anonymous

A couple reasons come to mind why a husband might tell his wife this.

First, insecurity. If he’s not been feeling satisfied with the level of intimacy, it could be his way, consciously or unconsciously, of spurring his wife to show more affection, etc. Similarly, if he’s on some level unsure of your feelings for him, he could tell you something like this so he can gauge from your reaction if you still care about him and your relationship.

This one is manipulative and wrong-headed, of course. Better to discuss these things openly rather than spur each other with jealousy. But if insecurity is his motivation, the wise course is to reassure him. Words may not be enough if “words of affection” is not what speaks love to him. Depending on the man, touch, loving acts of service, spending more time together (paying attention to each other, not the television, movies, etc.), or for some, gifts, are all possibilities that may be more effective in soothing and reassuring him. Once his insecurity has been addressed, then see about discussing the way he expressed it.

Another reason, however, is accountability. In some close relationships, a husband’s (0r wife’s) first instinct when something like this happens is to tell their spouse, simply because they always tell each other everything, as part of the trust-bond. This is the right reason to tell your spouse: so you can tackle such problems with a unified front. Ideally, spouses are stronger working together than either of them are apart.

In Christ’s Unity,

Andrea Graham

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Hoping to be the future Mrs. Wrong?

I recieved a private letter that I won’t disclose, but imagine any number of ladies reading this could have written something along the following lines:

Dear Andrea,

My fiance/boyfriend confessed to a porn addiction/ongoing use and suggested I might want to call off the engagement/stop seeing him. I’ve read up on this subject, so I have an idea of how hard our life together would be, but …. (insert excuses reasons for wanting to marry Mr. Wrong here.)

In short, I love him, and if I say yes (or continue in the engagement) I can help him overcome this even though right now he’s ready to give up and doesn’t want to talk about it anymore. I’d be better able to help him and surely my love can save him. Right? He needs me. How can I reject him?

Signed,

the Future Mrs. Wrong

If you see yourself in this letter, the following is for you:
Dear Future Mrs. Wrong,

Beloved, I realize you love him, but frankly, he’s done the most loving thing he can in allowing for an amicable parting as friends. As long as he’s struggling with this, and especially if he’s not willing, or able, to do what it takes to overcome this, marrying him would bring you little but heartache and could even end in divorce. You can be his friend (after taking time away from him to refocus) and that is what he needs, but it would not be good for either of you to continue pursing a romantic relationship.

Marry someone spiritually stronger than yourself, someone you can look up to and respect, not to mention someone you can trust, in terms of both his faithfulness and judgment. He’s sick, and if you were married to him already, or his illness were physical in nature, that would be one thing. But a wife’s first duty towards her husband is respect him and follow his spiritual leadership (if that makes you cringe, note part of his role involves delegating to you the tasks/decisions in which you are clearly more gifted, but you may have to let him figure that out the hard way if his pride gets in the way.) But it comes down to this: with this kind of spiritual sickness, neither of you could fill your proper roles in marriage, and that would lead to nothing but heartache.

When evaluating a potential husband, ask yourself: Is he respectable, is he honorable? Do I respect him and treat him with honor? Is he someone I can look to as my spiritual authority (head), trusting in his judgment, his ability to make good decisions? Is this man going the same direction I am, and if not, could I ever follow his direction, or at least be a help to him in his calling while following complementary goals of my own? A wife, according to God’s design, is to be a helper fit to assist her husband in his calling, or mission in life , not a nurse maid, and definitely not his mother.

Women want loved first and foremost, but for men, it’s to be respected. As unbelievable as it is to us women, most men, if they had to chose between the two, would rather have respect without love than love without respect (which explains, in past cultures where the duty fell to him, why a father usually sought for his daughter a respectable husband even if it meant the exclusion of love.) So you’d do well to seek a man who will meet your basic need for love and who you can also meet his basic need for respect.

I’d suggest visiting forums for wives of sexual addicts (such as Shelley Lubben Forums or those listed at Bebroken.com :: Wives Links). Read some of their stories and talk to them, so you’ll have a better idea of what you’d be getting into.

Also, I’d recommend you at the least take some time apart, find a nice quiet spot where you can think clearly, and pray and fast unto the Lord, asking Him to reveal His will to you. I’d say Mr. Wrong doesn’t need a fiancé, wife, or for that matter any position of spirtual leadership, especially ones that would give him easy access to vulnerable children and women and others the pornography might tempt him to harm. What he does need is your prayers, the Lord’s healing, and friends he’ll allow to hold him accountable (preferably men, this disease makes it difficult to not relate to women as sex objects–that goes for children also, depending on his viewing habits.) If he’s giving up and not willing to be held accountable, I’d say don’t walk, but run from this relationship.

Ask the Lord to open your eyes to see clearly. The hormones raging in your blood stream are deceptive and will lead you straight into harm’s way.

As to concerns about rejecting Mr. Wrong, whether he realizes or accepts this or not, he needs your love as a sister in the Lord, not a romantic entanglement. Find a man you can accept, respect, and look up to just as he is, not one where you can do this after x number of changes which you hope your love will make. It won’t. Only God’s can. All you can do is keep reminding him of–or point him to–the Truth and encourage him to walk in it rather than lies. But that will require establishing clear platonic boundaries.

Now, circumstances sometimes do change, and God can change a man who wants to change, certainly. If later on, he actually does prove he has come out of this victorious and becomes a man you can respect and look up to, someone you can lean on as much as he does you, I am not one to hang past sins forever over the head of the repentant and would not suggest you do so either.

Still, we have ladies, when dealing with a tiger, who want to say: “we can marry if you make x changes” or, worse, “I’ll marry you if you promise to make x changes.” I highly recommend avoiding such statements, as that’s not fair to either of you. A marriage partner is an as-is deal and you have to evaluate prospective husbands as if what you have today is what he will always be (but do pray for his soul, spiritual growth, and healing of course.) Promises made by mortals mean little as they are often broken, and changes made to hook a fish last about as long as the courtship; once he has you safely in the bonds of matrimony, Mr. Wrong often reverts back to his native stripes. And that’s especially true in the case of pornography, as even with the most sincere efforts, this demon has a way of coming back to torture a man again. A good man can overcome with the power of Christ’s blood, but it’s never an easy battle for him. So make sure, if you’re planning to go forward into matrimony with a man who struggles or has struggled with that weakness, that you’re doing so with both eyes open.

In Christ’s Love,

Andrea Graham

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For All the Eves longing for an Adam (and vice versa)

Update: this post got top billing in the latest Christian Carnival, over at thoughtsofagyrovague.com

If you’re single, a Christian, and not called to celibacy, you may be asking questions like, who should I marry? Is there such a thing as a soul mate? Does god have someone particular in mind, or is it up to me?
To all of you, my heart goes out. I’ve been in those shoes myself. Let me tell you, ladies, you can have soul mates without reincarnation, because the Lord knows exactly who He wishes you to marry and had that man’s faults and weaknesses in mind when He made you. Likewise, guys, just as the ladies have been made for their Adam, God also has an Eve out there for you.

Unfortunately, most people today don’t seek the Lord’s will on this matter, and wind up under covenant with people they weren’t intended for and bound by their oath until death do they part. And He certainly does not approve of dumping that person without just cause (ie, adultery) when you figure out your mistake, no matter how wrong for you they are. Unless you’re in physical danger, confess your sin to God, get thee to marriage counseling, and make lemonade together. Amen.

But, back to the singles. If you submit the area of your love life to God, and ask him to lead you and guide you to the right man, he will do just that. It’s always wise to ask the Lord his opinion, and he will confirm the match, though how he goes about this can vary.

In my case, my husband and I, we met over editing my novel manuscripts, and behold, he found his name along with at least two of brothers, his father, and his mother, with the name for his father being the one the Lord would use. Coincidence, yes, but the coincidences stacked up fast. If I’d been a boy, I’d have been “Adam E.” too, for instance. The Lord prompted my mother-in-law to pray for her future daughter-in-law the same year I fully surrendered and gave myself to the Lord I’d until then only known as Savior. I also had a list of characteristics of my dream man (light brown hair, blue eyes, thinks I’m the most beautiful creature on earth, sensitive, artistic, makes me laugh, ministry-oriented leader, for instance)and Adam met the profile quite well. My youth pastor’s wife had a similar story.

In short, the coincidences got so unbelievable, we simply had to look at God for an explanation.

When Adam was seeking the Lord whether to ask me to marry him, the Lord confirmed it in a vision. Those are not a common occurrence for him by any means.

And the way our personalities, gifts, and callings mesh… I don’t know of any non-atheist who possesses any doubt of whether we were made for each other.

So while few will hear an audible voice whisper a name, He can and will show you, if you submit this area to His Lordship. Of course, timing can be an issue. If you ask him, and you’re not getting an answer, it may simply be too soon. He usually doesn’t answer the husband question (or the wife question, for the gents) until you’re actually ready to get married.

In Christ’s love,

Andrea Graham

P.S. The whole story of how God brought Adam and I together can be read on our new author’s site: http://adamsweb.us/love.html It has pictures, too :)

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Beware Dating the Separated

Dear Andrea,

Seven months ago, I became involved with a woman whose husband had abandoned her. At first our relationship revolved around her heartbreak over her husband’s actions. He had been unfaithful to her on at least two occasions. He had moved out of the house twice. … He had also emotionally abused her in many other ways too numerous to go into here ….

Initially, I just listened and provided a sympathetic ear for all her problems.… Slowly we became closer and closer, until one day she told me she was in love with me…. I fell in love also and we began a very close and loving relationship…. She filed for divorce about three months ago and all the paperwork has been submitted. In this state, the divorce becomes final six months after the day she filed.

…So our lives became closer and closer and we finally became engaged to be married. She swore everlasting love to me, she would forever be faithful, and she swore that we would always be together… Our relationship was faith based and I truly thought God had brought us together.

About six weeks ago, her ex-husband found out about our relationship. He started to phone her constantly. At first she told him not to call. But he persisted in a obsessive way. He would call fifteen or twenty times a night. I told her not to return the calls, not to talk to him, and that whatever she does, do not meet him. He promised her he would do anything, including go to church (which he had always refused to do before), go to counseling (which he had always refused to do) if she would just take him back. Then he kicked it up a notch, and confessed all the things he did to her, including the adulteries. He said he was the worst husband there ever was and he doesn’t blame her for leaving. But now, he has reformed. He has learned a painful lesson and he will never do anything wrong again if she will just take him back. He calls her and cries and sobs on the phone. He plays the “I’m still your husband” card.

Then last week she agreed to see him. More tears and begging. This affected her greatly. She told me she feels so guilty. She says she feels such pressure and that she wanted to be alone.

… Last night we had a wonderful evening together. But when she got home he was waiting for her. More theatrics and tears. I thought this was getting to a critical point so I dashed over to her house. I pleaded with her to stop this insanity. She had to be firm and tell her ex-husband the truth about us and to let him go. She said that she would take care of it.

Today I woke up to none of my usual email messages from her. Or phone calls. So I tried to email her and phone her. Nothing. Nothing all morning.

Around noon I received an email that stated this: “I would like to share a few thoughts I’ve had recently. I know there are no guarantees when it comes to love. Real love requires risk, putting one’s feelings out there in the most vulnerable state. Without that risk, we will never share true love with anyone. The thought of risking another chance with… [“Uriah”] scares me to death, but in reality, the risk would be no less with anyone. No one knows what the future holds for us. The best we can do is put our faith in God and pray that he will lead us down the right path. That path does not always lead to what we think is our best interest, but it does lead to God’s will. I believe in this with all my heart.”

She has continued to ignore my telephone calls. I would really appreciate some advice on this because I think I’m a little too close to the issue think clearly.

Thank you,

David

Dear David,

Her husband plays the I’m-still-your-husband card because, until the divorce is final, he is still her husband. I know this is difficult for you emotionally to accept, but please listen. Getting involved with a married woman to begin with was a mistake. That’s adultery, the same offense her husband committed. Adultery is a divorceable offense, but she and her husband both have now committed the same sin and it seems to me God has been convicting her. If her conscience says God’s command for us to forgive would have her reconcile to him that is what she must do, regardless of his past offenses.

I suspect the coveting in your heart makes you want to believe his repentance is insincere to protect against your own conscience. That’s also why I kept getting told how your family and friends all approved of your relationship. Because you lack the peace of God’s blessing. He cannot bless your relationship with this woman when she is still bound to another man. Beware of this trap. Your family and friend’s approval cannot substitute for God’s and He will never approve of what His Word condemns.

I would never insist a woman live with a man that has abused her, but she has that choice. In general, abuse alone is not a divorceable offense, so unless adultery has also been committed, as you say it has in this situation, the abuse victim’s choice would be living alone (or with other family) until her husband dies, or more likely, takes up with a new woman himself. You would be well advised to seek God’s forgiveness for coveting another man’s wife, back off, and let her go. As painful as the truth is, any promises she made to you while still bound to her husband are of no affect.

Take this as a lesson to not give your heart away to another man’s wife, should another woman separated from her husband ever attempt to reel you into her web with a sob story. Never give your heart away until after the divorce is final—and then ONLY if the woman is free biblically as well, either because her spouse committed adultery, or divorced against her will, especially by an unbeliever.

I would also like to add to those already remarried, even if you were at fault biblically in the divorce, you do not need to and, biblically, should not, divorce your current spouse and return to your former spouse. If you have not already done so, do confess your sin before God and ask His forgiveness. You will know you are right before God when you can admit to others what you did was wrong. Not being reconciled to God leaves us with no peace and creates a need to justify ourselves, typically expressed by trying to convince others and ourselves what we did wasn’t wrong.

To those concerned about their testimony, tell the truth. “I sinned, but God’s grace has set me free and enabled me to go and sin no more” brings God far more glory than any pretense. Just remember, God’s grace frees us from sin, not to sin. As the scripture says, God will not be mocked. You reap what you sow. Sow to the flesh, and you shall reap destruction, to the spirit, life.

One more note, if someone you know goes off with an abusive spouse or boyfriend and you have reason to believe this person has left with them under duress and/or is in physical danger, do not hesitate to call the police or other appropriate authorities.

Love in Christ,

Andrea

Idolatry: the Relationship Killer

I’m only using excerpts from this letter for brevity and to maintain the writer’s privacy. The woman referenced was a long-time girlfriend.

Phil: Sometimes I feel that God is punishing me for something I’ve done by taking the most important thing away from me. After all, I have been spending a lot of time with her, and not as much time with Him.

God should be the “most important thing” in your life. Anything else that is “most important” is an idol. In his own words, God is “a jealous God.” He wants the top shelf in your heart and he has been known to take away things that we put before Him.

Phil: Basically, I think maybe she left me because we spent literally almost 24 hours a day together for the past year, and neither one of us have many friends outside of each other.

I hate to say it, but your instincts are probably right here. If you think you were smothering her, the odds are you were.

Phil: I really want her back, but I don’t know what to do right now.

Have you heard the saying, if you love someone, let them go, if they ever were really yours, they’ll come back again? Back up. Let her go and give it all to God. It sounds like you got too close too fast. Release the relationship to God, tell Him everything you told me, and everything you were too ashamed to tell me, if there was anything. He already knows, so he won’t be surprised.

Casting down idols isn’t easy and when we’ve made a person an idol, it’s as bad for that relationship as it is with God. Putting a person in God’s place puts a burden on them they weren’t designed to carry. The inevitable result is crash and burn.

It sounds like you have a lot of pain and trust issues built up that you need to get resolved before you’ll be ready for marriage. You may want to make an appointment with your pastor to work these issues out, he should be able to direct you (if he’s worth his stuffing.)

I think I should also mention I don’t believe in “dating around,” as she mentioned. The greatest romance of our lives should be with our spouse. The focus for singles should be, in terms of human relationships, on friendship. Romantic relationships should be reserved for exploring the possiblities of marriage in the immediate future. Guard your heart, you want to keep as much of it as possible for the woman you’ll marry someday. Before marriage, the best way you can show love is giving out as little of it as possible, if you catch my drift.

Right now, make new friends, get God back where he belongs, release your past hurts and relationships to him, and give him your future, too. God’s not a dating service, but he does want to help you figure out who he wants you to spend the rest of your life with.

It’s not going to be easy. This will all take spending a lot of time on your knees in prayer. And you’re probably going to need a lot more guidance than I can provide, so again, I urge you to talk to your pastor or another person over you in the Lord in your local body.

In Christ,
Andrea